I tell you I get all kinds. The following rambling diatribe and its collective pearls of wisdom is kind of a norm for some of these Creationist folks. Let’s have a look at what we are dealing with in this classic comment from the retarded form of religion as Dr. Dawkins likes to call it (his words, not mine but more on those unfortunate words a little later in this piece) :
You forget this nation was founded on fundamental Christian principles reaped from the Word of God, the Bible, and the one and only God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. America was not founded to worship other gods and, in fact, God commands us not to worship any other gods nor even let their names come out of our mouths. It sounds all well and good to allow everyone in America to worship anyone they please no matter how pagan and wicked, but that is man’s idea and not God’s.
Cool, he’s anti-American as well! You know he reports to a higher authority like the voices in his head. Wait, there’s more:
God nearly destroyed Israel because of their turning to heathen gods and He’s going to do the same thing to America. He likens running to another god to a bride becoming a prostitute.
Okay, so if you don’t believe in his god you are some sort of a theological slut! No way, I’m a marketing slut and damn proud of it, so please visit my Flores Girl Podcast as Podiobooks, just click on the chick in the jungle on your right! But I digress…
So it is not so weird that the majority of Americans believe they were created by and in the image of God. Yet the Christians are called the idiotic and stupid ones. No, it is the minority of atheists and heathens who have tried to take over a Christian nation who are the ignorant ones and America is finally getting fed up with it. The Christians have been told to sit down and shut up but that time is over. We will no longer be oppressed and run over by a minority group of people trying to convince us we evolved from an ape when in fact we were created just a little lower than the angels.
Folks there you have it, on the spiritual evolutionary scale we are just a notch below the angels. And that small minority groups sounds suspiciously like those pesky Jews. Watch out Ben Stein, you’re next with this crowd! And now for the grand finale:
Maybe all the evolutists (sic) should go find their own little island somewhere where they can jump through the trees and eat bananas and be like their descendants and leave the normal, sane people here.
Actually, I think most evolutionists will acknowledge that our ancestors were partial to meat-eating. As to his or her sanity I will leave that assessment to the reader but I think this writer just escaped from the polygamist compound in Texas.
And there you have it, another well reasoned and erudite Creationist writing. To be fair I have also reasoned some intelligent, good natured responses from the Intelligent Design crowd. And the pro-evolutionary force is not beyond a little god-baiting and name calling as well. Take for example the evolutionist Dr. Richard Dawkins straight from his acting debut in Expelled and his acerbic comment about where the resistance to evolution is coming from:
“It comes, I’m sorry to say, from religion. And from bad religion. You won’t find any opposition to the idea of evolution among sophisticated, educated theologians. It comes from an exceedingly retarded, primitive version of religion, which unfortunately is at present undergoing an epidemic in the United States. Not in Europe, not in Britain, but in the United States.”
Or how about this bon mot from the good doctor when asked about why we believe in God?
“One suggestion is that the child mind is, for very good Darwinian reasons, susceptible to infection the same way a computer is…”
So how did this virus start in the first place Dr. Dawkins? From God or do all humans have innate longing to follow an alpha male? And you have to admit god is the biggest alpha male you are ever going to find! The point is a scientist can find a hypothesis for every observable human behavior even the ones they believe to be retarded. You don’t have to denigrate the argument about a belief in god into a round of name calling and that borders on the juvenile even for an esteemed scientist. So everybody has their own agenda, including me, so please click on my podcast. Now if you want to make fun of Intelligent Design, well, I am all for it but as for the retarded comment I think that is a bit much. What do you think?
Expelled begins with a deception. The opening scene of the movie is a fraud. It purports to show Mr. Stein giving a lecture to an adoring crowd of students at Pepperdine University. But the production company for the movie literally bought the audience: there were very few students there, the audience having been created from what is known in movie jargon as “extras.” What a way to start a “documentary”, the purpose of which is to supposedly unmask deceptions and conspiracies.
It doesn’t get better. The films’ main thesis, that anyone in the science community who believes in God, or is a Darwin dissenter is being “expelled” is false at its core.
In a New York Times interview, Walter Ruloff (producer of Expelled) said that researchers, who had studied cellular mechanisms, made findings suggestive of an intelligent designer. “But they are afraid to report them”.
Mr. Ruloff also cited Dr. Francis S. Collins, a geneticist who directs the National Human Genome Research Institute and whose book, “The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief”, explains how he came to embrace his Christian faith. Mr. Ruloff said that Dr. Collins separates his religious beliefs from his scientific work only because “he is toeing the party line”.
That’s “just ludicrous,” Dr. Collins said in a telephone interview. While many of his scientific colleagues are not religious and some are “a bit puzzled” by his faith, he said, “they are generally very respectful.” He said that if the problem Mr. Ruloff describes existed, he is certain he would know about it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/science/27expelled.html?pagewanted=2
Similarly, Dr. Ken Miller is a professed Christian who wrote “Finding Darwin’s God” (which I suggest you read). Dr. Miller has not been “expelled” in any fashion for his belief in God.
The movie tries to make the case that “Big Science” is nothing but a huge atheist conspiracy out to silence believers, but only presents a very one-sided look at some Discovery Institute “martyrs”.
Carolyn Crocker “expelled”? – No.
Her annual teaching contract was not renewed. Was she “fired” for daring to bring God into research? – No. She was hired to teach Biology, and she decided to ignore the schools’ curriculum and substitute her own curriculum.
http://tinyfrog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/ode-to-caroline-crocker/
Guillermo Gonzalez “expelled”? – No.
He was not granted tenure. The film doesn’t bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he had only brought in only a miniscule amount of grant money. Nor does it bring up the fact that in all his years at ISU he failed to mentor a single student through to their PhD. Nor does it mention that in his career at ISU, his previous excellent record of publication had dropped precipitously.
http://scienceblogs.com/strangerfruit/gg2.jpg
Richard von Sternberg “expelled”? – No.
Sternberg continued to work for NIH in the same capacity. Of course the movie doesn’t bring up his underhanded tactics in getting Meyers work published.
http://www.nmnh.si.edu/rtp/other_opps/intern/associates04.html
This movie attempts to influence it’s viewers with dishonesty, half-truths, and by a completely one-sided presentation of the facts.
If a scientists’ research is not accepted by the scientific community, it isn’t because the scientist either believes or doesn’t believe in God, it is usually because they are producing bad science.
Benjamin Franklin
I think an analogous documentary film should also be made concerning the DINOGLYFS or dinolits:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/dinosaur.htm
It seems that the ancient man not only saw but also documented the last megafauna (gigafauna, I should say).
Other animations on the tiny cellular machineries apart from the Expelled movie can be seen in here:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Videos_animations_flagella_evidence_existence_creation_contra_evolution.htm
pauli.ojala@gmail.com
Biochemist, Finland
Pauli,
Cool pictures of serpents but how about showing a fossil prehistoric man in the belly of a dinosaur?
A little proof would go a long way to strengthening the arguments for Creationist cause and then I would willingly drink the Kool-aid. Arguing about irreducibility complexity doesn’t cut it for me either and even if I did concede this point, which I don’t because its a specious argument, how does this bolster the argument for Intelligent Design? Disprove of one theory is not automatic proof of another and there is still no proof of a working ID mechanism. You always want to see a new species being made (by the way did you take a flu-shot this year Pauli?) so I want see inanimate goop become new life. I’m still waiting. Oh, I forgot god work in mysterious ways.
Otherwise, this is all a matter of faith and not science and, if that is the case, I feel obligated to follow my own belief system and not that of other men. I am quite capable of creating my own mythology thank you.
It is also good to see that the US is not the only country with its own Fundamentalist community and maybe now Richard Dawkins can start calling other countries retarded as well.
Erik John Bertel
Whats wrong with calling religious people retarded? Surely if you met someone who believed in the the Greek gods and goddesses you would think they were retarded. (Or at least substantially less intelligent then yourself)